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but in terms of the substantive story, what she addressed, what she advanced today on the story, do you think she made progress in terms of satisfying people. >> even just coming out was progress. her explanation it was convenience was a little striking because there was guidance. it wasn't a rule, it wasn't a regulation, certainly wasn't a law but there was guidance you should use the government e-mail system. she used a personal e-mail system. it seemed i think because -- it seems rooted in the experience the clintons had had in the '90s. this goes back to the last such press conference, not combative, it was in the state dining room in april of 1994 she was wearing a lovely pink sweater and she was addressing the question of cattle futures and whitewater and the rose law firm and whether they had special benefits from and favors because of their position in arkansas and she answered questions, you know, till the cows came home and it was a day when there was a lot happening on bosnia and a

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