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paul: i guess, kate, what they used, they used this guidance letter, right? something that is the specialty inside of the obama administration, we're, this is not formal rule but we're guidance. it is sort of an, it is an order youu can't refuse. >> right, exactly. they said it is just a dear colleague letter, best practices which is not really true from what dan said about conducting roving investigations et cetera. but that is whyhy i think, paul, even if you disagree with the underlying policy or agree with it, you should support the education department here because they're getting something off the books here that wasn't a regulation, it was end outlined in statute, it was basically just roving authority to enforce guidelines that they wanted to enforce. so the basically, just accomplished something through a guidance letter that should have been debated in the political process. paul: but i guess the other argument, jason, you formed the commission in relation to park land, terrible shooting incident at a high school.
lot of other stories we were more interested in covering but this was the first chance to interview the first lady about all of this and she yielded to advice to answer all those questions, they said to her, this will be the end of it. just answer these quest and six months later ken starr had been appointed and there was a prosecutor so her experience has been if you answer questions they'll want more and they'll never be satisfied and so that's why she hunkered down but in the era of social media i don't think you can politically you can't get away with it especially in the weeks leading up to the launch of a campaign. let me just say this there were a number of us from the state department press corps, you know, who covered her before who really wanted to cover the international women's day events. i was in beijing with her so -- >> in 1959. >> in 1995 so that arc goes back very far for me and this was incredibly meaningful. the report they issued jointly with the gates foundation yesterday, the clinton foundation and gates foundation
do you think that she made progress in terms of satisfying people as to what happened? >> i think even just coming out was progress. her explanation that it was convenience was a little striking because there was guidance. it wasn't a rule, it wasn't a regulation, it certainly wasn't a law but there was guidance you should use the government e-mail system. she used a personal e-mail system. it seemed i think because -- it seems rooted in the experience the clintons had had in the '90s. this goes back to the last such press conference, not combative, it was in the state dining room in april of 1994, she was wearing a lovely pink sweater, and she was addressing the question of cattle futures and whitewater and the rose law firm and whether they had special benefits from and favors because of their position in arkansas and she answered questions, you know, till the cows came home and it was a day when there was a lot happening on bosnia and a lot of other stories we were really more interested in covering but this
but in terms of the substantive story, what she addressed, what she advanced today on the story, do you think she made progress in terms of satisfying people. >> even just coming out was progress. her explanation it was convenience was a little striking because there was guidance. it wasn't a rule, it wasn't a regulation, certainly wasn't a law but there was guidance you should use the government e-mail system. she used a personal e-mail system. it seemed i think because -- it seems rooted in the experience the clintons had had in the '90s. this goes back to the last such press conference, not combative, it was in the state dining room in april of 1994 she was wearing a lovely pink sweater and she was addressing the question of cattle futures and whitewater and the rose law firm and whether they had special benefits from and favors because of their position in arkansas and she answered questions, you know, till the cows came home and it was a day when there was a lot happening on bosnia and a
strategy for the republicans. something they were united and often united with all democrats on the matter and they instead turned it into a shouting match. if their goal is to keep some sort of unified pressure on iran they have alienated some of their most committed allies and turned into what used to be an everybody nod together issue into an issue that feels more like partisan chaos. joining us now for the interview is an independent senator from maine. angus king a member of the armed services and intelligence committee, intelligence committee is a co-sponsor of legislation that would require senate review of any nuclear deal with iran but today took to the senate floor to denounce this open letter to iran's leader. senator king thank you very much for being with us. >> rachel good to be with you and you hit it right on the head. this whole thing is bizarre because the bill that was put in barely a week ago by bob corker the republican chair of the foreign relations committee was headed, i believe, for a vetoproof majority. people were clamoring to
co-sponsor it. bob corker is a very careful to keep it bipartisan. i wouldn't put a republican on it until he got a democrat and was building out from the middle and all of a sudden it got blown up. i mean this is -- if this isn't an example of snatching victory from the defeat from the jaws of victory, i've never seen it. it's a very strange turn of events. they have politicized, they have politicized and made partisan an issue that was never partisan before. >> i wanted -- i'm glad you brought up senator corker because that last point is what i was going to ask you. senator corker as far as i understand is one of the republicans who did not sign on to senator cotton's letter today. it's got unanimous democratic opposition. it split the republicans senators including senator corker and his incredibly key position on this. i wonder if you see this as sort of a fluke occurrence or does this imply that there are sort of fishers in the senate in terms of people trying to take a leadership role in this where we shouldn't really feel like we can predict what's going to
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