say all kinds of stuff i don't like, right? but i always want to just bring them closer when they say stuff that i don't like. alan, i guess part of what i'm wondering is how we play this out. part of what a university is meant to do is teach experiences of personal responsibility, of conduct, of character, of citizenship, but at the same time provide lots of space for learning, for messing up for making mistakes and going forward. i'm wondering how you're seeing this? >> i'm seeing it exactly as you said as a teaching opportunity and learning opportunity. sadly, i don't think oklahoma set those up beforehand and that's why we're seeing it happen within in fraternity and from this individual and all of a sudden the community is reacting, trying to coddle him, take him in. now we'll teach him after he's messed up. but they should have set up the system before haebdhand, teaching him about power, teaching him about privilege. making him reflect on his own power and his own privilege. you're a white male.
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