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the husband and the boss. i do feel like it's not about you. poor kellyanne conway is just trying to do her job. i forgot i was going to sit on my hands today. >> jesse: that's what beto should do. >> emily: i feel bad for her. she someone who gets up every morning and goes to work and then has to be caught between a rock and a hard place. her husband could have demonstrated in this moment to me as a learning moment, teaching opportunity for the rest of the country as like look, even though we disagree on everything, i love my wife. i support her. he -- >> dana: like carvell and madeline? >> greg: are you really sitting on your hands? >> emily: yes. >> juan: remember, you mocked her for using her hands. >> jesse: half a beto. >> emily: i started it. >> jesse: you can do beto with one hand tied behind your back. i have sympathy, juan, because
the head of the committee that recruited warren to harvard said he had no knowledge of her native american heritage ever coming up. >> she still maintains to this day, the lore evidence as -- >> i'm not saying it's right or wrong, what she did, but do you know how many black folks in america think that they are -- have native american ancestors and they go to get their ancestry done, there's no native american anywhere -- your grand mama was an indian, she was native american. she said she learned that from her family, i can certainly understand that as someone who has been taught that we have native american ancestors. >> she could go to ancestry.com right now and use it as a teaching opportunity. >> if she used it in that manner, then it's wrong. there are a lot of people in america who have been taught that, and the facts don't bare it out. it doesn't mean they use it to get ahead. rick wilson --
university of texas. the community that lured her to harvard -- >> she still maintains to this day, the lure evidence as -- >> i'm not saying it's right or wrong, what she did, but do you know how many black folks in america think that they are -- have native american ancestors and they go to get their ancestry done, there's no native american anywhere -- your grand mama was an indian, she was native american. she said she learned that from her family, i can certainly understand that as someone who has been taught that we have native american ancestors. >> can you go to ancestry.com right now and use it as a teaching opportunity. >> if she used it in that manner, then it's wrong. there are a lot of people in america who have been taught that, and the facts don't bare it out. it doesn't mean they use it to get ahead. >> if there is a time to correct
strategy, the outcome is to establish a relationship with that student so that the issue at hand doesn't recur. >> so are you saying the teacher in this case failed doing her or his job? >> well, when you start using police officers to manage classroom behavior, you create a police state mentality. and when you do that, for every little offense, particularly those of such a minor offense like not putting away a cell phone, you create a mentality amongst the student population that it's us against them. that becomes a pervasive response to any type of disciplinary action in a classroom. no sro can maintain that kind of work effort. teachers once that culture begins to establish itself, it is a hard way to get back to establishing positive relationships with young people. so my answer is, no, the sro should not have been called. i understand an administrator was also present at some point. >> that's right. >> that's a teaching opportunity
to ensure for public safety which is incumbent upon them to secure on the streets in san francisco and in every city and state across this country. and instead, geraldo, they are allowing individuals who are a risk who are a threat to come back in the country routinely regularly without any kind of checks and balances. >> it does not surprise anyone watching that i disagree with almost everyone at this table. >> you didn't get my joke. that was the problem. >> on this topic. because you mispronounced barry as berry. >> to rhyme with cherry. >> that was the problem. no laughing matter. the president of the united states missed a teaching opportunity. first he should have called the family. he should have apologized for any role the federal government's incompetence played in this tragedy, this terrible loss this scum dog still on the streets. he did three long terms in federal prison for felony
say all kinds of stuff i don't like, right? but i always want to just bring them closer when they say stuff that i don't like. alan, i guess part of what i'm wondering is how we play this out. part of what a university is meant to do is teach experiences of personal responsibility, of conduct, of character, of citizenship, but at the same time provide lots of space for learning, for messing up for making mistakes and going forward. i'm wondering how you're seeing this? >> i'm seeing it exactly as you said as a teaching opportunity and learning opportunity. sadly, i don't think oklahoma set those up beforehand and that's why we're seeing it happen within in fraternity and from this individual and all of a sudden the community is reacting, trying to coddle him, take him in. now we'll teach him after he's messed up. but they should have set up the system before haebdhand, teaching him about power, teaching him about privilege. making him reflect on his own power and his own privilege. you're a white male.