this is case of that. there was an opportunity to attempt to engage this person extend your perimeter. those types of things. more or less as you would do in a hostage negotiation, if if you can. sometimes these things turn on a dime. and police work is really in dealing with those issues that can turn violent and often times fatal at the drop of a dime. you have to make a call at that time and use the appropriate training being goided by the rues and regulations of the department and state law that applies. >> it's down to a judgment call. we are seeing the pulse.msnbc.com pulse of uh how peep feel whether or not the police car striking the suspect was an appropriate use of force. it is interesting to see most people think it was not an appropriate action to do that there was probably another option. >> thomas? >> go for it.