why don't we as republicans take this on and find a conservative way that puts money back into the economy. i think in this republican primary, we'll have a pretty in-tenin- in-depth conversation about education. i don't see how we see people getting to these hubs of higher learning if we don't have ways to get them there. i don't know why we don't seize this issue and outflank them on infrastructure spending. >> we have the chinese can doubling, tripling down on investment on education r&d. it is investment in your economy, investment in your country, investment in the main arteries of the free market. >> and it's almost as if we're kind of following behind the accidents. at this point -- >> yes the last time we raised spending was when there was a fatal train crash. >> and it they put in the ptc after. which, great. >> let me ask you a question. in washington what do you think is a more powerful lobly the highway lobby to build more roads or the railroad lobby to