difference between a connection being very weak and a connection that doesn't exist. >> well that's absolutely correct, and as more information comes out, like morrell's now speaking about it it seems to be that there was almost no connection at all. but i think that was, you know again, pretty well known that the basis for going into iraq to fight al qaeda made no sense at the time. >> and amber, let's talk about the issue that david just brought up about ramadi city where more than 200 americans died. it's now in isis hands. how important is it to get that back? >> well the fall of ramadi is a huge significant gain for isis. it's 70 miles west of baghdad, it's a supply route into syria and on into jordan and that's going to be really tough in the way that strategy if you want to call it in which we are