means that any program that was started before the expiration date could continue but the other programs they've voiced concern about like lone wolf roving wire taps still an option to continue them and the government has not said they won't continue them under the grandfather clause. >> to the information that's been collected what happens to that? >> that's interesting as far as the bulk collection program. the nsa said they are not going to wipe the servers. they're just going to turn them off. they can't destroy the information as there's a lot of lawsuits obviously hitting the government for using this information, violating bill of rights and constitutional rights of american citizens and actually a res press servation order that's valid that requires the government not destroy that because it's evidence. for people who want to prove their case. >> ali, come see us again. thank you so much. >> thanks for having me. >> a programming note tomorrow on "meet the press" meet the can cats, chuck todd speaking with bernie sanders of vermont john kasic of ohio rick santorum of pennsylvania talk about their