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he's about talking his views the same way as a guy yelling at the tv in the bar, and this connects with the american people. what doesn't connect with the american people or the republican electorate at the moment is jeb bush's kind of nerdy approach to policy which is something that is admirable on his part but is not the sort of thing that gets you the kind of excitement and the kind of crowds for your various long-winded addresses as trump currently does. >> on that approach to policy, you know, he basically used the term "anchor babies" in a conversation with bill bennett. a lot of people find that term offensive. i myself am one of them. also because it's like -- it's a fictional phenomenon in a certain way. >> there were 8,500, basically, foreign nationals who had what you could term "anchor babies" in, like, the last year or whatever, 2013. >> and that is -- let's be clear, there's a thing called birth tourism to use a phrase which i think is better and those people are people with a

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