we are going to make her a martyr. bad idea. >> there is something to it. >> i think there is a sense among social conservatives that they are oppressed, not allowed to follow what they consider to be their sincere religious beliefs. she could resign her job and would not have to issue anybody a marriage license. >> which is a solution that's a correct solution. >> losing your job is a significant hardship in your life. she would like to be the county clerk and not issue gay marriage licenses. that's not allowed by the court. i can understand why she would want that. i think it's key to note it's not the judge's job to think about good optics for supporters of marriage equality. his job is to get his court orders obeyed. this is the recommend ti available. >> one thing that occurred to me is in some ways we made the comparison to george wallace and the campaign called massive resistance throughout the south for years in defiance of desegregation.