wall street. and what did we get in terms of an electoral bounty for this? we lost the house, lost the senate, and they just elected barack obama presidency. not only did this guy give conservativesy a bad name, we didn't win anything for it. that's why the modern right of the last eight years comes from. it was partly a reaction to barack obama. it was a reaction to the decision to be pragmatic in 2000 and to go with george w. bush. we're never going down that road again. >> it's such a good illustration, too. it's an example of how the whole country is giving george w. bush terrible approval ratings. dick cheney left as unpopular as herpes. the country is looking at it like that experiment was a terrible right-wing idea. the conservative movement looked at them and said the reason they failed is because they weren't conservative enough. >> it wasn't a real right-wing government. >> so how does john kasich fit