polarizing statement like that after a national tragedy and then think you're going to be -- if you're a polarizing person, that excludes you from being on the ticket. and so i'm astonished she's done so well. she's basically shot herself in the foot and i'm just amazed at this. hillary of course has been involved in women's issues for a very long time and i think she does -- is able to address this in ways that other people are not. but that's the thing that really surprised me is hearing carly fiorina carry on about the left at a time of national sadness except for those few people who are just haters. >> tamron? ky make one quick point about hillary and the african-american vote? that's not a lock for hillary as well. she's got to work that vote. she's not her husband. i think that's something she's also very mindful of going into a broader discussion. >> absolutely. which you have heard. eric michael die syson has a pi out saying this is not a lock vote especially when you look to