independent person. remember, they can't work in the government because of the government rule against nepotism. you would be putting them out of work. i think you are going to have to fashion something that is very comfortable, something that's fair, something that assures the american people as he said he has no interest in what's going on in the business. >> what's your reaction? we left the finance question for you. >> first of all, i wish we would all stop calling it a blind trust. it's not a blind trust. >> what should we call it? >> it's a trust. the idea with the blind trust is that you don't know what's in the trust. up don't know what your assets are invested in and somebody runs them who doesn't take orders from you. neither of those things is true. donald trump obviously talks regularly with his children. they will have influence in the administration even if they can't technically go to work in it. then he is going to know what the assets are. that's even -- even if you were trying to do this in a way that's transparent, that's harder to do. he owns buildings with his name