began to turn and people like me and ra shell that realize virginia is going to be close. james cobble said if if virginia is gone, ohio was gone, then florida was gone. what do you think happened. >> i can't say. i mean, this was so -- there's no precedent for this kind of campaign season. there was so much divisiveness, so much hatred, we had the comey thing, the cia problems, we had we wikileaks and intrinsic sexism. this goes on and on. there was so many things involved in it. it was a shock the way it turned out. this is where we are now.