to talk about the framing. he loves the jokes and there's lots of laughter in there to break it up. he clearly likes the attention and the sort of stand-up routine of playing presidential. but when i read the transcript multiple times, it's i'm going to do a lot of big things. >> i spoke to a reality show executive who said so far he looks much more focused on playing the role of president than doing the rest of the job. >> here's what's interesting that you bring that up. i always thought he was very good on his reality show playing the part of the businessman because the bottom line is we've never seen his tax returns. what little we know about that part and the real part, the not fake facts but the real part is that he's gone bankrupt and his business practices which are what sold him to many people as a presidential candidate might not be that great. and i always was interested in him sitting in his office in a