investigation right now. for now, what's relevant, they want to talk to him and the story goes right to the door of the oval office, to one of the people who is closest to this president. >> i wonder, adam, if that's why the fbi actually wants to talk to him because he is at the center of everything. he took all the meetings. donald trump didn't have a secretary of state, so he was pretty much the acting secretary of state. so the guy had 50 meetings with saudis before going to saudi arabia. he had 50 meetings with the chinese. if anybody has information for the fbi, again, even though he's not a target, that would be the first person you'd want to talk to, right? >> there's no question. he is the point person that the president and at the time during the campaign and again during the transition, he was basically trump's point person dealing