>> two things for voter suppression that this is ultimately what that is about. >> it is. >> and then secondly, if he's saying that we don't know if we can trust the results of the 2016 election, what does that mean for the 2020 election? >> well, this is such a threat to democracy, this voter suppression commission which is what it should properlien called because every step they're taking in the queries that they're making to state governments and local governments is all intended to hold down votes, democratic votes that they are trying to keep -- people are trying to keep from coming to the polls. the people he's collected in this commission, they all have long histories of voter suppression that go back twenlt years. so that's antidemocratic. and raising doubts about the legitimacy of an election is p antidemocratic. both of them undermine the faith that we have in our system. it's very, very important for us, moving forward, and if we get into a situation like a