makes him think as if we can expect a level of frankness. then it takes people off guard. that he will lie completely lie with kind of similar panache and seamlessness. as will his attorneys. that's not something we see. >> that attorney generals hedge in a sense. >> right. >> and reporters, you're trained to do that. so i think people gregt used to the fun house mirror way these went back. >> i think it puts the beginning of the causal chain that has brought us to all of this and