>> broad tax reform is one of the toughest things to do politically. >> as we found out. >> the benefits, if we're talking about the benefit toss wealthy individuals, we're talking going from 39% to 35%. >> state tax is no small thing. >> that's a little different for most small businesses and farms. >> for a minute, we were talking about intangible things and tangible. snug more tangible than the american people is health care. they understand a sick person and having medical bills pile up mean much more than the estate taxes will help them or not. that's why i find it extraordinary this short-term fix to shore up the health care market is something that is probably the politically toughest thing for lawmakers to do right now. there what's the penalty if they don't do this? >> people's health care. >> the republican party own breaking health care? >> no, because the system that currently exists was created by obamacare. >> you think you canclaim blame the democrats, not the republicans? >> it should be people if part