you know, he faced a lot of tough issues. in my view, he woke up every morning focused on what was best for the country. >> do you understand bannon's beef? >> well, you know, i suppose on a policy basis he thought he should have been tougher on immigration, as an example. instead george bush tried to figure out how do you come up with a consensus on immigration and so he did propose immigration reform. i think that's needed in this country. i think most americans do too. >> i want to move to tax reform here a little bit. this is going to be a big part of it. one of the initial votes you made and republicans made in general was essentially allowing for more deficit spending, if necessary, to grow the debt. you were concerned about the debt when barack obama was president. let me play some clips. >> the american people are rightly frustrated by the fact that we have the biggest deficit in the history of our country and the biggest debt ever. >> debt and deficit will end up in a fiscal crisis and an economic crisis. >> it's a question as to whether we're going to just sort of turn our heads and allow this to
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