campaign and bill crystal, editor at large for the weekly standard. there was a time line that was leased as part of the papadopoulos filings and we see, in fact, on march 19th, 2016, john podesta's e-mails were hacked. on april 26th, a month later, papadopoulos was told by a russian contact of thousands of e-mails. it was not until june, june 14th, of that year, that the dnc hack was made public. what does that tell us about that? >> it tell us something very simple, which is, in fact, the russian government made an offer of help to the trump campaign to help them with things like stolen e-mails and getting those stolen e-mail also out and to the public and the trump campaign was willing to accept that offer of help. that is a pretty basic conclusion one has to draw from what was revealed yesterday from bob mueller's investigation, and if that's not collusion or conspiracy to collude with the russians to interfere with the