just like that. the underpinning younger healthier people being required to participate is the key to obamaca obamacare. out the window. >> as it was romney care in massachusetts. what happens then is when healthy people are out of the pool then prices go up. >> because only older sicker people -- >> people our age have higher health care costs. so the projection by the congressional budget office, they're not democrats, they're not republicans, is 10% increase in premiums every year. >> who's going to get blamed politically? >> they're going to get blamed. they're going to get plamd when companies shut down. there's provisions in this bill, if you shut down production in mansfield, ohio or zanesville, and go overseas you get a tax deduction for moving incentives. now you have more incentives under this bill. when plants move to mexico and china this bill will be part of the reason for it. >> let's talk about chip. because i think most people have a conscience, a lot of republicans do too. they see kids who need health care. they don't want to have tyny times out there on crutches that are not getting doctor's treatments. this thing takes away 9 million