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immigration at all, do you think that republicans are right to be nervous that even a seat that seems safe like your former boss' seat, this shutdown could amplify those differences in a way that makes democrats competitive in texas or arizona? >> so i think the issue with regard to a shutdown is what is the underlying policy position or policy issue that again the perception whether true or not is what caused the shutdown. but what we can agree upon is here it being daca and in 2013 being obamacare. and the polls are pretty clear that the public across the board does not support the tactic if you will of shutting down the government because of daca. and it doesn't for many issues i believe the only issue i've seen where the public would support using that as a tactic is increasing spending on defense. but direct response to your question, i don't believe texas is going to go blue, but i do believe that what jason said a moment ago is true, the republican -- the democrat base

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