target for blackmail. >> you are a target if you've done anything that you would take great measures to assure didn't become public or wasn't made known to your home government or law enforcement. >> that's right. >> anything you've done that you would be embarrassed by or you would get in trouble for is something that would make you vulnerable to blackmail manipulation. >> we talk about them so they are in the past and we're in the process of unpacking it. there is no evidence jared kushner's actions that prevented him from getting a clearance and you have to keep in mind, we only know that he couldn't get a clearance. nbc news broke the story but we only got access to this information about the people with interim clearances because of the rob porter scandal. so because of the audacity of the white house to leave an accused wife beater in a position where he was handling incredibly sensitive information, he would have been the person putting the pdb on the president's desk. we learned the numbers of people on interim status. all the reporting tonight bears out not only had it been something he couldn't achieve, it might have been something he would never achieve. what i heard from sources is