they can. >> i heard maggie haberman on cnn tonight said her guess was that by tomorrow, we would learn about the contents of rudy giuliani's letter to the mueller team about a potential interview. are you where i am on this? and that is i'll believe it when i see it? >> yeah, i think so. it's kind of amusing to see giuliani demanding these terms for the interview because the fact is, he doesn't have the upper hand here. he knows that. he was a prosecutor. ultimately -- >> does he have any leverage? >> minimal. >> they've got the client everybody wants. >> right. i think giuliani knows the things he's demanding are outrageous. you'll agree to certain concessions maybe more for the president of the united states. he's way out of line for what he's demanding, time limits. >> in obstruction. >> i wonder why. if they don't agree, mueller i believe will drop a subpoena. you end up in the courts and trump is going to argue executive privilege. it didn't work for nixon in the '70s.