no campaign finance violation. so -- >> they funneled it through the law firm. >> funneled through a through firm, and then the president repaid it. >> oh, i didn't -- he did? >> yeah. the president reimbursed that over a period of several months. >> so how do you make sense of that when you have the president's lawyer saying, he knew about the payments, the payments came, as he said, funneled through a law firm, and then you had on the left as we played you there aboard air force one the president saying he didn't know about the payments and that the payments didn't come from him? >> it's hard to reconcile the two of those. i don't think it's a good idea, and i don't think any lawyer thinks it's a good idea to be trying cases in the press, and particularly when you don't know what the facts are, or you can't keep the facts straight. i don't think it's advised or well advised for either of them to be talking without knowing what the facts are, and they should figure them out. with the allocution yesterday and the documents that came out, we've learned that what happened was the repayment was made, and it was disguised, or it was