all you got to do is look at the government now. you can see why you should have done it. >> never been a time like this. never. >> no. >> we thought it was bad in the vietnam war and we women were fighting for our rights and african-americans were fighting, everybody was fighting for their rights. but now everybody -- >> you think it's worse than vietn vietnam. a lot of kids were drafted to get killed in vietnam. >> i think it's worse than vietnam because there's a ma lev nance to it i have never seen before. >> what do you say to people that say america is never going to be the same? >> it always change. the pen due lum swings back and forth all the time. >> it's a cycle. >> all these people are getting to hurt while it's waiting to change. that's what's killing me. >> people will suffer. it's going to suffer more if you don't think you have anything to do with it or you can't change