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there and i think that by and large, both the bush administration, the obama administration, and the trump administration have laid out a pretty coherent case. we're there because of the rise of terrorism, because of the o propensity of these groups to take over territory. imagine today if iraq were conquered by the islamic state. not inconceivable. afghanistan would be a terrorist super state right now if we hadn't gone in there. and let's remember, frances, we've reduced the number of troops there from somewhere near 300,000 in iraq and afghanistan at peak to somewhere around 20,000 today and 95% drop. we're leveraging our allies, partners, and friends. that's a coherent strategy. the mistake i see in it at the moment is walking away from syria. that, we should not be doing. >> yeah, and that's the understanding of many americans, really need in knowing the reasoning bind all of this. you got the second item when it

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