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letter of the alphabet, double "h" is while hitler. >> i would not know any of that. your son comes downstairs, and i don't know what this is. you know what i mean? >> so this is a nordic rune, that's the tree of life. if i look, i have one that's tattooed on me. that's covered up on me but i have a couple there. there's nordic runes. the band is a norwegian black metal band. the singer went to prison for burning churches. he is very much a national socialist, as is the scene surrounding this band. so here's -- that's what's called a wolf's hook or a wolf's angle. it's an old nazi national socialist symbol for world war ii. everything that i've seen here is a sign that most parents would never know to look for. >> i had no clue about that. >> for the first two years i was involved in the movement, 14 and 15 years old, my parents had no idea. and then one day i was bold enough to come home with a