envogue with these presidential candidates. i started to ask around to democrat democratic strategists and experts in extremist language whether or not this was a good idea. i talked to the head of the antidefamation league center on extremism. they said it kind of misses the point. it's too simplistic and it has the potential to lessen and impact the power of that word. but we'll see whether democratic candidates continue to use that kind of language or not and whether it helps or hurts them. >> all right, thank you guys both. thanks for watching this hour of msnbc live. i'll see you tomorrow morning at 5:00 a.m. eastern on "morning joe" first look. right now more news with chris jansen. >> you're going to go to bed right now? >> i'm going to go home and take a quick nap and i'll be back. >> i am chris jansen here for craig melvin today here at msnbc headquarters in new york. today it's looking like a revamp in the 2020 race for president