>> reporter: the state of the relationship has been terrible to put a fine point on it, because joe biden as vice president and erdogan had clashed a number of times over erdogan's desperate efforts to try to get a cleric opposition leader who he blamed for a coup a number of years ago, an attempted coup against him which had been in exile in pennsylvania in the pocono mountains. he demanded the president turn him over to turkey for some kind of punishment or jailing or worse. of course, the president said we don't do that in the united states. we have a rule of law. if there is a reason he should be extradited to turkey, that should be done through the courts. biden was not taking a call from erdogan until president biden called erdogan to tell him something he really did not want