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russian bots or the mainstream media is jiving you. you have to meet them where they are, and say i feel it, too. this is a problem. you can't just be a detached snob and say you're an idiot. >> greg: she's right there. she's not a detached snob. >> jessica: he said he liked me. >> greg: you know what's interesting. both sides do the thing where they call the other side stupid. but i think jesse is right. there's no -- it's not about intelligence at all. it's about confirmation bias, right, if you really believe in something, it's hard for you to change your mind. isn't that the truth? that's probably what this is. >> jessica: even confronted with facts about it, people will still say no, it's this. >> greg: we have a lot of that with you when we try to confront you. >> jessica: so kind you keep inviting me back. confirmation bias is hugement partisanship is off the charts. it used to be that people were quite flexible and willing to listen to both sides about it. that's not the way that it works anymore. going to that, you know, biden saying those idiots, he gets