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politically driven. it's a stunning and worrisome poll. just goes to show what mark is saying in his op-ed is correct. it harming our political process. >> mark penn, you use those words. you say free speech and equal justice under the law. the erosion of the two core principals. you car to expand on that? >> yes, absolutely. i mean, look, the trump indictment and attitudes towards it, which shows people are okay using the justice department as long as it fits their political ends. people are getting more comfortable. no wonder. whether it was trump declared he won an election he didn't or the russia hoax that didn't exist or the tech companies that were censoring political speech and covid speech, you know, even going back to the obama administration when the irs was investigating conservative