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whether they'll say that these cases have to be dropped due to presidential immunity? >> well, they seemed hostile, martha. i don't think -- i doubt that president trump really believes he was going to prevail in this forum. i also think that strategically to my mind the best argument for the president or the former president's immunity claim is that even though the supreme court has not grappled with this precise issue, that is can a president be criminally prosecuted for official acts within his responsibility, the court has grabeled with a similar situation with president nixon in the 80s which i involved a civil lawsuit. the strong argument should be that the same rationale that the court had for saying the president needed to be spared from civil liability applies