And dr. Anthony fauci. Arrested . [music] a fox news alert for the Biden Justice to permit just brought criminal charges against donald trump. His political opponent for the third time in four months. This time the charges relate to january 6. Good evening. Today, an indictment was unsealed. Charging Donald J Trump with conspiring to defraud the United States, conspiring to disenfranchise voters, and conspiring and attempting to obstruct an official proceeding. The indictment was issued by a grand jury of citizens here in the district of columbia, and sets forth the crimes charged in detail. That was special counsel, jack smith, who looked like a bedraggled nervous wreck, dripping with anger and highly emotional. The last time jack smith charged the politician, the case was so we could get tossed out of the Supreme Court unanimously. Joe Biden Justice department is using obscure federal statutes, to put a former president in prison for the rest of his life. These charges are not bribery, not assault, tax evasion, not sex trafficking. They are charging donald trump under the active 1866, use against the clan and now they are using against trump. Here the specific charges per Conspiracy To Defraud the United States. Conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding. Conspiracy or attempt to obstruct an official proceeding and conspiracy against rights. Here is how they are saying donald trump broke the law. They are saying that donald trump lied that the election was fraudulent. When he really knew the election was clean. And these lies made it hard for the government to certify the election. First, they said trump called State Legislators in georgia, arizona, pennsylvania, michigan and wisconsin and try to get them to investigate Election Fraud. Okay . Then the government says, trump tried to get some states to send in Trump Electors instead of Biden Electors and only a tiny handful of states did that. They mailed in some Trump Electors and then the senate threw them in the garbage, and ratified the Biden Electors. That was it. Then there saying, trump brooke logan asked mike pence to do the right thing. To not certify and kick it back to the states. That was a different legal interpretation then many people had at the time. But it was a difference of opinion. And it didnt matter because mike pence didnt do it. Then there saying the generous six protesters because of donald trump lies, slow down the certification for a couple of hours. That is it. Those are the charges. I know this does not count in a court of law. But do you think trump had any idea that he was breaking the loan he was asking mike pence not to certify . And how are you going to prove that trump knew there wasnt any Election Fraud . And how are you going to prove that these were corrupt intentions of donald trump thought he was doing the righteous thing . You cant, it was just politics. It is all politics. He was pushing it as far as he could, and maybe pushed it a little too far. But should he die in prison for that . I dont think the Biden Administration real is what its done here. Is going to give donald trump the opportunity to relitigate the 2020 election in federal court. This is what donald trump has been dying to do for the last two and half years. He is going to have subpoena power. He is going to crossexamine witnesses. Hes going to put his own witnesses. Hes going to go out and prove or try to prove there was Election Fraud in philadelphia. Vegas, arizona, detroit. And the federal government is going to have to prove that it was clean in those. That will be a fun one to follow. Trump is due in Court Thursday for the january 6 charges. In case youre Keeping Score at home, donald trump will be on trial in three to three courtrooms next year. An election year, while running for president , while fundraising and while debating. He will be in Court Keeping Charges with Stormy Daniels in manhattan in march. He will be in a florida Courtroom Beginning In May on the maralago documents case. And he will be in a dc courtroom on the january 6 charges, probably in the spring as well. He needs a body double. This is a dc jury, in a case overseen by a obama appointed judge, who has got a nasty track record. And there is another george election related grand jury considering Charging Trump pdq four trials next year. And also we may be looking at a President Biden impeachment trial next year as well. Legally speaking, trump will have to pay lawyers a lot of money. And if he is convicted, he will not go to prison. He will be freed on appeal. And he will be able to appeal these federal charges, all the way to the Supreme Court. Which will take a while. Probably until after the election. And theres no way the Supreme Court of the United States is going to uphold a conviction of a former president close to 80 years old. Thats not how the court operates. Especially on something as political as this. The timing of this indictment was coordinated to take the heat off of joe biden. This is the third time its happened. Ready . On march 17, hunter admitted the laptop was his. On the very next day, trump received word that greg was indicting him in new york. June 8 fbi document broke that ukraine paid biden a 5 million pot. The next day on june 9, bidens Doj Indicts Trump on maralago documents. Yesterday, july 31, Biden Insider told congress that biden spoke with hunter biden as his partners dozens of times in touch was paid handsomely to get his dad to fire the prosecutor. Then today they indict donald trump on january 6 charges. This is not a coincidence. Anytime bidens is in trouble, trump pays for it and the news cycle flicks. Donald trump is a runaway favorite to wrap up the republican nomination and is currently tied with joe biden in yesterdays New York Times poll. 43 a42. Astonishingly, after this political war crimes have been perpetrated on him, donald trump is in the best position hes been in so far to win reelection. Can you believe that . At which point, he will have to pardon himself immediately. And dont think for a second, hes not going to unleash hell on all of his political enemies. This is only the beginning of politicians putting other politicians. And their families in prison. Said we had to go down this road but this is where we are, and now we have to finish it. Lets turn over not to Jean HamiltonVice PresidentAmerica First legal and former general counselor. To the Attorney General. You read the indictment. What do you make of these charges . Thank you for having me on. These charges are politically motivated, like no charges weve ever seen before. This indictment reads like it was written by adam schiff himself. Or by generous Six Committee itself. It is a rehashing of a bunch of First Amendment protective activity, describing things the president said and did, Drawing Conclusions and pushing forward with a legal claim against legal counts against donald trump, saying that he violated a criminal law because he questioned the outcome of an election. Because he questioned Different Things a lot of americans also have questions about. We also be in a situation now where political speech is being criminally prosecuted, at the highest levels against the primary little opponent of the sitting president of the United States, if that doesnt shock you, i dont know what will. How is the trial going to work . Theyre going to have to have trump prove or disprove Election Fraud, and in the federal government they will have to sit election was clean. Is this what we will do it trial . One of the elements of the government that they had to establish a trial on each of the counts is knowledge. To show intent. The government alleges in the indictment that donald trump knew that all these things he was saying were completely false. Somehow, donald trump knew that all of these elections were completely perfect, clean and the best elections ever. They even said all kinds of different reports that arose after the election to say, he clearly had knowledge that everything this election was great. The problem is, donald trump donald trump had questions about the election with a lot of people did so saying that you knew the results were false, is not exactly the same as saying that you cant have questions. Whats going happen in trial, the government will have to carry the burden to prove a bunch of different counts each of the elements of these including knowledge and all kinds of other components. And i think you rightly pointed out, one of the counties facing is a Conspiracy Charge on the statue that was used to prosecute members of the kkk after the civil war. They are really stretching, really stretching to find crimes to meet what they want to do. They want to rehash all these old things, they want to bring longterm and drag him into jail, they are going to the end of the where they can, do anything they can do to do so. If they are saying the certification was delayed a couple of hours because of the january 6 protesters, they saying that is conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding. You are delaying an action in the senate and house for a couple of hours. That is a five Year Prison Sentence, for delaying a proceeding . I mean, anytime they going to a hearing doesnt hold up signs and close whistles, slows things down, a five Year Prison Sentence . Right. The results are absurd. And of course the other thing is, you still have to show the existence of actual conspiracy between donald trump and other folks who acted in furtherance of the end of the the government will be able to prove that. Regardless of all of the word vomit they put on their indictment, its not going to be possible. They wont be able to hear the burden. If they succeed in getting a conviction in the district court, there is zero percent chance that this thing stands on appeal. Particularly at the Supreme Court of the United States. As a ready been a lot of questions raised by very prominent conservative judge of The Dc Circuit About Two of the counts, the statute underling to the counts charging donald trump with. I think people should Pay Attention to what the government is trying to do here. They should Pay Attention to the fact this is a politically motivated prosecution, and they should be able to contact their legislatures and senators and everyone else and ask them to hold the Department Of Justice accountable. Thank you so much. Now lets begin our panel former Trump Campaign advisor. Lara, lets begin with you. Your interpretation of what happened on the heels of what we heard yesterday about hunter and the big guy. I think your assessment of things was right. Every day, seems like following a Magistrate It would be very damaging to the biden family. Obviously, very conveniently and shockingly, there is an indictment or something of the sort against my fatherinlaw. But here is the truth about all. You know that our entire family acted as surrogates on the campaign trail. We always take part in the campaigns of my fatherinlaw. I was asked as you point out, a Senior Advisor in 2020 to the Trump Campaign. Ill tell you what, multiple times a day, we would continue to receive reports from across the country have sometimes in the form of affidavits, detailing her questionable nefarious things they saw at different polling locations. We had a lot of questions about what happened in the 2020 election. Quite frankly, i dont think weve ever had an election in the United States history, that would come out of having more questions than we did post 2020. Obviously, one of those people as well, was a sitting president of the United States. My fatherinlaw, donald trump, who did exactly what you would want a president to do. He upheld and defended the constitution of the United States, by trying to ensure that we indeed, had a free and fair election. That was his whole goal, thats what he wanted to ensure was going on. And i think is your previous guest pointed out, what about his First Amendment freedom of speech . What about what he actually said on january 6, at the ellipse and he wanted people to peacefully and patriotically make their voices heard. What about his tweet later that afternoon . Im asking evan at the u. S. Capitol to remain peaceful, no violence. Remember . We are the party of law and order. And you know what, i think the more and more we see this happen, the more indictment leveled against my fatherinlaw, the clearer it becomes to the people of this country, that this isnt just about the democrats attempted to interfere in the 2024 election. That is obvious. Theres much more at stake for these people and for the deep state and the swamp in this upcoming election because its not just about preventing donald trump from becoming president , is about preventing donald trump from exposing and taking down the machine that is a swamp in washington d. C. , they cannot afford to see that happen. I think every day, people are becoming more and more aware that that is reality of the situation. Speak to the point that larry just made. Lets say the president after the election, during the controversy, thats sent affidavits about Election Fraud, or set reports about Election Fraud and lets just say, i dont know, philadelphia. And he says, he lives in philadelphia, legislators look into this. Can you guys hold a hearing . Can you investigate . Or maybe send in some trump elect doors and if it sticks out differently, they are on standby. How is that a crime . It is not crime at all. Actually, what goes on here is that legally, you look at what his intent was. Did he actually believed as lara points out, that there is misconduct . I dont think theres a question that a lot of Americans Still believe there was misconduct in the 2020 election. So, does it mean that if you raise concerns, youll be criminally indicted and charged for constitutionally bringing out your First Amendment rights . Its absurd. It is absolutely absurd. Weve also seen videos, that prove they have been ballot harvesting, things of that nature. This is a really difficult case frankly from a legal perspective, to bring. And as weak as can be. So jack smith today. He was as nervous as anyone ever seen and he is good reason to because he knows is politically motivated, and is Election Interference at its finest. How do you think the trump were an American Voter will interpret this . The trump voter will rally rob because indisputably this is outrageous politicization of our Justice Department through the likes of which frankly, ive never seen in my entire life. I want to focus one aspect. Want to be a lawyer for a moment and use my fancy law degree. What i cant get past is, they are trying to criminalize a legal theory, and this indictment. And let me explain what i mean. When you look, i was doing research on this. December 2022, they went and changed the law as it pertains to the electoral count act, 1987 law that was amended. There were legal advisors to donald trump, who said, they believed mike pence had the ability to impact the way that we were receiving these electoral votes. If there wasnt discrepancy and uncertainty in the law, why did they change the law to clarify what the Vice President role was, in December 2022 . Look, in law school, threatening legal representation, there are lawyers who sit around and debate as anyone whos ever practiced long nose, and says, i think this is a good argument. I think this is a bad argument, this may be a novel theory, this is untested, this is a bit of an argument that hasnt been made before. It is unprecedented, thats how the law evolves. What theyre trying to do here with these Conspiracy Charges, his argument donald trump through his legal representation, was engaging in a conspiracy based on the legal arguments that he made. I think even if there were conviction in the district court, this will get thrown out immediately by the Supreme Court because not only is it a First Amendment attack on donald trump, more significantly, it is an attack on legal representation itself