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i'll go to prison for life." and in fact, i was charged with a possible 115 years, which would have been a life sentence. and we'll get to that trial in a moment. but i just want to get inside your head a little bit, the young daniel ellsberg, because it seems to me... he chuckles. i wasn't that young. i was a0. 0k. well, pretty young. from my current perspective, very young. but the point is, you in some ways were trained to be a security hawk. you were working in america's sort of nuclear strategy. that was one of your key concerns. you clearly believed in america's position on the cold war. in fact, i think it's fair to say that you supported intervention in vietnam. yes and no. i'd been in vietnam on a research group for the defence department in 1961. it was actually looking into limited war research and development, because previously