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in a system, usually a legal bias or usually... and so i don't — i cannot think of a single example, and i go around the world and the united states and i ask people, and i've yet to have one, and i... look, let me give you what you're looking for. i think that we have very serious problems with race in our country, much less so with gender, but very serious problems with race. i think we need to have open and honest conversations about this. the remedy to this, however, is not, as i mentioned before — the bestselling author, as ibram x kendi says, "the remedy to part discrimination is not present discrimination." yeah, he would refute that. we've had him on the show. he says absolutely what he is about is treating people equally, seeing people treated equally in a society. well, if you read the book stamped in which he uses that line, that's absolutely not what he says because he advocates for equity. an equity—based system is not the same as an equality—based system. in an equality—based system, we treat people the same.

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