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reasonable argument why he was confronted over loosey cigarettes in the streets, but to have this latent bias? >> i hear you on this. charlie, how do you respond to that? >> if you just try to look at individual cases, you could always make the argument back and forth. what we have to do is look at all the data. look at all of the cases and see if there is bias in all of the cases. if you can show me the same numbers of people not only in america but also right here in new york city who are white who have been shot by police officers and you can show me that it is equitable that i listen to the argument, but you cannot do that. new york times tonight, every notable case of police killing in new york city going all the way back to 1990 and it's full of black and brown faces and you cannot look at that list and