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that's going to be live at any moment. mark the charges. the driver the only one charged with second degree depraved heart murder as it's called. this could carry a sentence of 30 years. what does that tell you? how hard is it to move this charge? >> it's quite difficult to prove it because they really have to show that the driver of this car and his actions were so outrageous of a depraved heart or mind so reckless in what he did that he should be held criminally responsible. i have to wonder if there's something in the driving pattern that the prosecutor hasn't told us about yet, something that puts that driver far and apart away from the other officers who were there who knew he was unresponsive who were part of the control over freddie gray. i have to wonder if we're going to find out that a quick stop or a quick acceleration. paul knows and i know i have had hundreds of clients of mine tell me that one way that cops keep control over an areeserest tee