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enemies or rivals but neighbors playing the cuban national anthem first, and then later playing, you know, the u.s. national anthem. in what way do you see those as significant moves in order to really kind of thaw the ice? >> well, i think the cuban people and the american people have a shared rich history. and so one of the ways that the ice thawing is beginning to happen are cultural exchanges. students going down to cuba now. people going to do tourism. i went down to cuba just to see the sight of the bay of pigs invasion. went to see where theodore roosevelt's history down there. it's an amazing place, havana. so i think the influx of american tourists going to cuba is going to be quite remarkable. when people start talking and dialoguing, sharing music, food, it's a chance for these two