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>> by pinocchio you mean -- >> everything out of his mouth pretty much is an exaggeration or just a frank misstatement. it's hilarious when people who are absolute media hounds complain about the media nonstop. the guy dominates the airwaves. he's taken every piece of oxygen out of the room and it's not enough for him. >> he wants to win. nobody has paid for the sins more than i have when it comes to donald trump and his coverage. we hear the same thing from his followers all the time. he's telling it as it is. he's not playing the pc game that everybody else plays. >> speaking the truth. >> they believe that he is unfairly judged. he gets a ton of attention but it's the kind of attention. the question is where do you think it goes for him? >> here's the thing. i think some of the things he does say about pc aspect of life is absolutely right. i get it. i understand why people identify with that. sometimes he does speak truth to