o'donnells and sharon engels, and a whole bunch of others who get through, who are just too radical. >> do you think the age of joe biden democrat is over? >> like i said, i think we may find that out in 2020 if he decides to run for president. there are a lot of people in the party that would like to see him try that. i'm not taking sides in it, but i don't think his days are over at all. he again came to alabama and it was a big success for us in the state. i think the thing about these races in a midterm, particularly this cycle for democrats, is keep it local. the second the race becomes nationalized, people go back to their tribe. they become red voters or blue voters, and you can't win in a red district. >> and conor lamb really focused on that, keeping it local. >> because if you make this about red versus blue and you're in a red district, that's not going to work too well. >> and he never did cable news. >> again, regardless of whether conor lamb actually pulls this