yet one wonders what communication is taking place with mbs and why this isn't being disclosed under the proper laws. >> but isn't -- aren't there often communications between people in the white house and foreign officials that are not made public? don't there have to be private communications? >> well, sure. but the irony of this is that the president ran his whole presidential campaign accusing hillary clinton of having a private server and having communication, and here you have something that's much worse. you have communications with foreign leaders on platforms that aren't official u.s. platforms, that put sensitive information at risk. no one is saying that they have to disclose every detail of those communications, but they need to be doing it on official government servers and preserving those records so that if there is inquiry, they can comply with that. and they haven't done that. >> there is an actual presidential records act, and ivanka trump still doing white