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did not turn over documents related to its efforts to aid rudy giuliani in his meetings with officials in ukraine. guiliani's role in the story has not gone unnoticed in large part because of the by design crash and burn interviews he's once again conducted as part of the president's defense strategy. take a look. >> your answer should have been yes. >> let me finish, chris. don't try to interrupt because you don't like the answer. >> i don't like evasiveness. >> don't distort what i'm saying. if joe biden actually bribed the president of the ukraine, which he -- >> that's a big allegation. >> it's not an allegation. it's a prima facie case. we could look at motive. we could look at intent. >> did the president threaten to cut off aid to the ukraine? >> no. no. that was a false story. >> 100%? >> well, i can't tell you if it's 100%. >> well, joining me, our cnn legal analyst and senior fellow at the center for american security, carrie cordero.