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debate stage come august. >> listen, the argument he was trying to make when he went on, i think is interesting dana just mentioned the voldemort reference. he said, you're not going to win against somebody if you're not going to say their name, that that isn't a winning strategy. he was trying to walk a line between taking on trump and trying to take on other policy issues. did he make the case against the rest of the field and how they're handling trump? >> i'm going to make an early prediction that if that kind of performance continues, chris christie will end up on the debate stage. that was one of the most powerful points he made that not just the case against trump but the only way to beat trump is through them. the fact that candidates are dancing around them is not a winning strategy. he came to play when he was talking about donald trump. on the policy issues, he had some really strong moments, i would say. i think that he showed some grace when he was talking about the second amendment, though he did not budge on really any sort of changes, rather it would have