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brought up immigration. this is joseph. he is a business consultant from des moines, who is a former iowa libertarian state chair. he now says he is republican and he's undecided. joseph. >> thanks for being here. governor, almost all illegal migrants crossing the border carry a backpack or bag and very few are cartel members. if you order to shoot on site, how many people are you willing to have killed to kill one low level drug mule. >> joseph, thanks for that. i take issue with the premise of that. when your conducting military operations, you're not doing that willy nikki haley. i i'm the only one that has served in a war. they didn't dress. they didn't wear uniforms. you had to positively identify. people had hostile actions, hostile intent. and then you would engage. it's not the same type of thing. it's even domestically when a police officer would engage. so, it's not going to be done the way the media is saying it's going to be done. i will tell you this.