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in. it's sort of the last thing you'd want to do against loy's advice. >> and who knows if he lost his temper but obviously he was prepared for there the other moments. his flags were up, he was ready to come out and, you know, pretend and say he's the president and give his statement. did he get what he wanted? >> i think he did. look, no question donald trump is also using this as a political platform, as a campaign platform. and there's been a lot of talk about, you know, is he missing out with these cases about traveling? i would say he's getting both done very effectively. he doesn't have to travel, which he doesn't much like to do. we know he doesn't like to sleep away from home. it costs a lot of money to campaign. and remember those rallies with 10,000, 12,000 people? he is sitting on the courthouse steps campaigning not literally on the courthouse steps but