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all of new hampshire, and it is really stunning what's going on. and i think haley is surging in new hampshire. and, you know, iowa is going to be a big deal because if she happens to win or even come close to trump in iowa, this is brand new race. >> and if -- you're saying if haley beats desantis in iowa, you think it's over, governor, for desantis. >> i think it is because he's certainly going to beat him in new hampshire and that's two states in a row. when you're a newcomer, that's tough. >> frank, as you well know the former president lost iowa in 2016 to ted cruz. though he tweeted afterward kind of a harbinger of things to come. either a new election should take place or cruz results nullified. how well does he have to do this time to meet or exceed expectations? >> he's got to get over 50%. that's been the excuse trump has used not to participate in debates, not to the gauge the other candidates. in fact, to try to force the other candidates out of the race. he would say i'm getting a