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night. >> what indications do you see of that break? that's just something you feel based on your interactions with evangelical voters? >> it definitely is, and anderson, you know this isn't my first rodeo. i was there with mike huckabee. i was there with rick santorum and i was there with ted cruz. i would say ron desantis has built by far the best organization i have ever seen in the iowa caucuses. >> because ted cruz had a really good organization. >> he really did. as a matter of fact, i would say cruz had the best one that i've seen eight years ago, but now desantis is light years ahead of cruz, and they've got this thing dialed in. i believe that people are going to turn out. the people that have committed to caucus for the ron desantis turnout will be a very, very good night for ron desantis and i think it will shock the country. >> in term of the operation that you've seen, i know they've done a lot of door knocks. i've heard different numbers, but a huge number of door knocks. do they have a bilge tg turnout