whole public education sort of issue that's going on in its specificity, you were looking at merit pay as tied to student performance. >> whether a teacher received a bonus or not was completely contingent upon their individual students' growth from one academic year to the next. but there's other ways to -- >> let's talk about that for a second. what are the other ways to look at this? what are the other ways to say that teachers can be paid on merit through other measurements? >> i mean, we could reward teams of teachers. so within school groupings, such as a grade-level team or interdisciplinary team. we could reward the whole school or a highbrybrid model of using individual awards in part and team level. we may reward different types of outcomes that don't necessarily have to be student achievement. >> now, let's talk about -- i want to tell you -- read you a